The Chad & Cheese Podcast

It’s the holiday season, but the recruitment news rages on. The boys cover a variety of topics this week, including: Google for Jobs unveils four new features, and one is particularly brutal for Indeed. Glassdoor goes to court and is ordered to reveal the identities of some of its users (their TOS told you it could happen!). Popular native app Blind is coming to the Web, and here’s why it matters. Two new startups land on the scene and promise more AI matching goodness. Legit or more smoke and mirrors? All that and more from your two favorite industry knuckleheads. Enjoy responsibly. As always, give our sponsors some love. America’s Job Exchange, Sovren and Ratedly rule like no others have ever ruled before.

The boys recorded this week’s show on Veteran’s Day in the U.S., so vet recruiting is top-of-mind. Considering Chad is an Army Vet, how could it not? CareerBuilder is partnering with this vet site, and rumors that Monster is making changes to Military.com abound. On to other matters, LinkedIn continues to kickass and take names with a new integration with Microsoft Word. The move should have job sites, and even Google shaking in their New Balances. The company is also making Glassdoor a little nervous with a recent move. Lastly, tons of news items, so the guys go a little rapid fire to cover stories from Sourceress, Entelo and Jobs2Careers’ ipply. There’s also new research on what kind of videos you should be making to recruit. They end with a PSA that you shouldn’t do this to the president. As always, show our sponsors a little love. That’s an order! Sovren, America’s Job Exchange and Ratedly make it all happen.

In this Nexxt exclusive, in partnership with TAtech, Chad and Cheese bring industry veteran Susan Vitale, CMO at iCIMS, on to discuss iCIMS’ recent job seeker survey, and any other timely topic they want. Included is a deep dive into employment branding issues. In their recent report, iCIMS discovered that Glassdoor reviews have a tremendous impact on recruitment. For instance, nearly half of Millennials surveyed said they’ve turned down a job offer because of poor reviews. Other findings are discussed too. Also highlighted in the survey is the importance of mobile and the impact social media and peer referrals have on the modern job seeker. The podcast also goes into questions of ATS platforms and whether it’s better to build a recruitment technology yourself or provide a platform similar to the iPhone’s AppStore where third party vendors can provide services. It’s a great interview, providing entertainment and education in equal parts. Would you expect anything different from Chad & Cheese? I mean, c’mon now. This podcast is sponsored exclusively by Nexxt. Checkout their product Text2Hire, and access an exclusive Chad & Cheese discount by clicking here.

Halloween’s hangover has the boys ranting about some trends that just won’t die: ‘Tinder for Jobs’ and video resumes. Startups Workey and O’Hire go keep going back to the future and treading where past companies have failed, and it’s got the boys fired up. Aside from the lunacy of dating apps as employment apps and 2-minute-long video resumes, more money keeps funneling into talent acquisition technology, as another companies gets more funding. Oh, then robots keep scaring the hell out of us, especially when they give interviews with the press and given citizenship in Saudi Arabia. Have fun while your earthly dominance lasts, humans. Go throw money at our sponsors. They rule! America’s Job Exchange, Sovren and Ratedly are the bee’s knees, yo!

On this Halloween edition of The Chad and Cheese Podcast, Chad and Joel welcome Howie Schwartz, CEO of Crowded to the Firing Squad. Howie believes Crowded Refresh will be a big treat because it can bring old and dead candidates back to life. That’s right ZOMBIES!?! Or maybe just a shitload of money companies don’t have to spend looking for new candidates. Howie believes Crowded Refresh will be a huge success and make the applicant tracking system black hole a thing of the past. Will Howie and Crowded Refresh receive massive applause, golf clap, or be laid to rest by the Firing Squad? No tricks only treats are going to get Crowded through this one. For newbies: Firing Squad is a ghoulishly raw podcast which focuses on showcasing recruitment industry startup companies, technology, products, and solutions. Just think Shark Tank with less billionaires and more snark. Listen to find out. Then visit sponsors Sovren, Ratedly, and America’s Job Exchange.

Chad enlists Tim Sackett – from The Tim Sackett Project at TimSackett.com – to fill in while Joel sits on the beach, sipping margarita’s while wearing a speedo. (Try and get that picture out of your brainpan) Anyways.. In this episode Chad and Tim venture into the Recruiter killing fields of AI (Artificial Intelligence for you non-believers). Can recruiters survive in an environment where they must compete with machine learning and technology that can perform tasks in mere seconds that takes recruiters days? Will recruiters evolve? If so, what will they become? SnapChat gets into the wearables business. What in the Hell is SnapChat doing selling those Spectacles out of a vending machine? Will anyone actually buy them? If so, are they stylish enough and do they make Tim’s butt look big? Tim brings his canary in the “recruiting coal mine” theory to the pod for further discussion. Has the tech bubble started to burst? Is TA blowing VC budgets and doing a course correction? Or is AI starting to make an actual impact on recruiting gigs? Too soon man! TOO SOON!? We also learn that everyone loves their ATS and hates their CRM. Wait a minute, they LOVE their ATS?? No that’s just Smashfly crying wolf. Although, do ATSs take a bum wrap from Talent Acquisition’s inability to leverage technology? What is TA doing with marketing platforms in the first place? Last but not least HiQ declares CrowdJustice!? A crowdfunding initiative to help defend against the eventual onslaught of LinkedIn and Microsoft legal dollars. Is the public internet really public? Will David be able to hold off two Goliath’s? All of these topics, questions, ranting, rumbling, and more on this week’s The Chad and Cheese Podcast – HR’s Most Dangerous Podcast. Don’t forget to visit: Ratedly.com, Sovren.com and AmericasJobExchange.com/cheese. They are the reason for The Chad and Cheese season.

Welcome to another episode of The Chad and Cheese Podcast. This week the boys are coming at you on a Sunday morning (more on that in the podcast), which means they still may be a little drunk from Saturday. On this week’s episode, a job board owner get intimately acquainted with the pokey, Facebook keeps rollin’ through the ‘hood and tearin’ shit up, and Johnson & Johnson finds its sunny disposition. As usual, visit our sponsors, America’s Job Exchange, Ratedly and Sovren. Without them, Chad and Cheese would probably just be livin’ in a van, down by the river. Giddyup!

What’s up, party people? On this week’s podcast, the plot between HiQ and LinkedIn thickens, the race to recruiting chatbot glory continues and maybe Microsoft’s ATS sucks more than we thought. “… imagine if a company that you’ve never heard of used automated bots to download your public profile (viewable via search engines such as Google), analyzed it to identify behavioral signals that you’re job shopping and warned your employer.” The boys discuss the state of web scrapers as various industries sound-off on hiQ vs. LinkedIn. Facebook quietly launches Workplace for Mac and PC chat apps, as well as integrating screenshare. It’s a nice product, but what the hell is Facebook actually doing in regards to employment. Are they a job board or a Slack assassin? Let’s dive in. The we move onto chatbots with Breezy HR’s new feature and iCIMS disses Microsoft and releases a very cool survey on job seeker habits. Hint: Employee anonymous reviews are really important. As always, visit our sponsors. They are kickass AF … Sovren, America’s Job Exchange and Ratedly. Boomshakalaka!

What a week. LinkedIn’s annual event took place in Nashville, Tennessee and it was an opportunity for them to drop a big ol’ poop sandwich in the lunch boxes of job boards and ATSs everywhere. Listen to learn why. And speaking of ATSs, Chad thinks they’re all being royally stupid for playing nice with a certain professional network owned by Microsoft. At least Entelo is doing it right, and the boys discuss how this company is embracing A.I. to help put sourcers out of business. Agree or disagree? We don’t really care. Moving on. Slack – and is there ever a show where we don’t talk about Slack – has partnered up with Oracle, the granddaddy of softwares and it could be an omen of things to come for the messenger app valued at $5.whatever billion. By the way, Oracle and Salesforce are arch enemies, so that probably lessens the chance they’ll be in the market to buy Slack. The boys close the show with one of the oddest news items ever in the employment space. Furniture store IKEA has purchased TaskRabbit, which sort of reminds us of Best Buy buying Geek Squad back in the day. Someone’s got to put that furniture together! As always, visit out sponsors: Ratedly, Sovren and America’s Job Exchange. They keep the beer cold.

LinkedIn’s CEO from Talent Connect 2017 discussing the state of the company. Raw and unedited.

On this week’s edition of HR’s Most Dangerous Podcast, the boys are getting geared up for their LIVE Podcast in Denver next week at the TATech conference. Speaking of Denver what’s the deal with all of these Cannabis Jobs? Nearly 150,000 Americans hold “jobs in weed” and the Vangst Group seizes the opportunity to help companies find good weed talent. TakeTheInterview hears Skype’s footsteps and becomes the Hubspot for the recruiting industry with the ConveyIQ pivot and a message to recruiters – “Recruiters who don’t embrace marketing will be automated.” I’m not sure I’d use that as a slogan.??. CareerBuilder loses more newspaper affiliates, while ZipRecruiter adds a newspaper partnership with New Media in 550 markets. Joel’s excited that we’re revisiting 2003 while Chad yawns… (add crickets here) Morgan Stanley uses Snapchat to target campuses and why is Indeed giving us “the feels” all the sudden? Big props for making Chad and Cheese possible go to Sovren.com, Ratedly.com and Wonscore from Wonderlic. We couldn’t do it without you… Dammit, now I got the feels….

Goodtime.io’s CEO, Ahryun Moon stares down the barrel of the Chad and Cheese Firing Squad podcast. Firing Squad is a raw podcast focused on allowing recruitment industry startup companies to strut their technology, products, and solutions or just fail miserably. It’s Shark Tank out of water, which means Chad and Cheese are loaded for grizzly. Goodtime.io feels they can change the face of interview scheduling for corporate recruiters all over the nation. Are they ready for primetime? Have they thought through all of the angles? Will Goodtime receive massive applause, golf clap, or get mowed down in a salvo of rounds by the Firing Squad? Listen to find out. Then visit all of our awesome sponsors: Sovren, Ratedly and Wonscore.

As we hit the midpoint of September, the news stories are flowing fast, so the boys cover a lot of ground this week. First, Chad goes off on ZipRecruiter, Mayweather-style, dissing their loose definition of “integration,” among other things. Women also get some primetime this week as Google heads to court in a class action suit alleging Big G discriminates by paying females less than men for the same jobs, and Pinterest touts 200 million active monthly users, which puts it into LinkedIn and Twitter territory. Walmart shows a lot of love to Facebook by targeting job candidates on the platform, targeting users in little ol’ Seymour, Indiana. Employers who aren’t paying attention are doing it wrong. Then, the guys look at news from the week, highlighting a recent product release by Crowded that aims to help employers revive the dead in their resume databases. And CareerBuilder is hoping to help companies condense their various technology resources and databases, and manage them in one platform. As always, visit our sponsors: Sovren, Ratedly and Wonscore. They buy the beer.

The guys have given eHarmony’s Elevated Careers a hard time from the first podcast. With the belief that candidate matching is more pixie dust and unicorns than real science and a commercially viable product, both Chad and Cheese couldn’t imagine anyone acquiring this turkey. That belief was only strengthened when Elevated Careers’ website went on pause for about 6 mos. Then came along Candidate.Guru, a site neither of the guys had ever heard of, to sweep the business out of the jaws of certain death. With an unquenchable desire to learn more, the boys invited Candidate.Guru cofounder Steve Carter on the podcast to explain the deal and learn more about this mysterious acquirer. It’s one of their most entertaining interviews, and no punches were pulled. Enjoy. And as usual, visit sponsors Sovren, Ratedly and Wonscore. They help us pay the bills.

The first show to follow Labor Day weekend finds the guys especially salty and feisty. They start the show with a rant about Dice that follows up one of their best interviews of the year. Then they bring it down a bit with some news from the pizza delivery space … delivery is about to get nutty and a lot of drivers are going to be unemployed. Monster has dropped a new commercial that has the guys reminiscing about the Bugs Bunny cartoons of their youth. Trumpasaurus got a makeover and a big-time Park Ave. budget. Moving on from commercials to video interviewing, the boys talk about news from the acquisition files as one of the original video recruiting sites gets gobbled up, all the while an 800-pound gorilla named Skype awaits to destroy them all. Lastly, remember how Google and Indeed turned job postings into commodities, starting about 10 years ago? Well, Google Hire is looking like it’s going to do the same to the ATS market today. SmartRecruiters is hunkering down for a world of free, and so should everyone else. As usual, go support our sponsors, because they rock: Sovren, Wonscore and Ratedly.

This week, the boys broadcasted live from Hinton, West Virginia at PracticeLink‘s annual corporate event. We had a great time and loved visiting West Virginia and soaking up a little southern hospitality. Much love. We covered our recent interview with Dice’s CEO and give a few opinions on what the takeaways were. There’s a lot of good advice in here for niche job boards. We look at new advertising options for recruiting desktop users and women, both solid diversity strategies. And what show would be complete without a little bashing: This time we take aim at Monster and LinkedIn. Then we take a final look at Facebook and how they continue to march into job board land. If you’re not paying close attention to what Facebook, Google and LinkedIn are doing, you’re doing yourself a big disservice. Enjoy, and as always, go show out sponsors a little love: Sovren, Ratedly and Wonscore. They make it all possible.

The boys were really excited to recently chat with Dice’s CEO, Mike Durney. As listeners will know, DHI, Dice’s parent, has been through an interesting year that saw the company look at strategic options for the business (a fancy way of saying, “We’re for sale”), then take the company off the market after no sale was realized. In addition to digging into that news item, Chad and Cheese dive into what’s going to happen to the entire portfolio of job sites, including eFinancial Careers, Biospace, ClearanceJobs and the others, as well as covering usability issues and mobile challenges of the business, and the companies nosediving stock price. It’s a must-see episode for industry junkies. And be sure to visit our sponsors while you’re listening, including Sovren, Ratedly and Wonscore by Wonderlic.

One of the hottest stories in recruitment right now is the legal battle between hiQ and LinkedIn. If you’re not familiar with the case, here’s a good summary:   A federal judge issued a huge setback for LinkedIn on Monday, ruling that LinkedIn can’t block the startup hiQ Labs from accessing public profile data. Many news outlets were calling this a test for the social media conglomerate in how much control it can exercise over data on its users and what it’s believed to be public. The primary question in this case, can a social media site control access to information its users post publicly?   According to Reuters, U.S. District Judge Edward Chen in San Francisco granted a preliminary injunction request brought by hiQ Labs and ordered LinkedIn to remove, within 24 hours, any technology preventing hiQ from accessing public profiles.   You can also visit hiQ’s website for more information.   As always, go say Hi to our sponsors: Sovren, Wonscore and America’s Job Exchange.

Startup Vervoe faces the Chad and Cheese Firing Squad. Firing Squad is a podcast which allows a startup company to either showcase their technology, products, and solutions or just fail miserably. It’s a Shark Tank-like podcast with 37 pieces of Chad and Cheese flair. Vervoe wants to prove they can change the Recruiting Industry so they stepped up to the mic, reached down deep, and have chosen to face the Firing Squad. Will they received massive applause, golf clap, or get mowed down in a salvo of rounds by the Firing Squad? You’ll have to listen to find out.

Lots going on this week. Dog days of summer be damned. EHarmony’s Elevated Careers found a buyer in this company and a little crow has to be eaten. Is it a match made in matching heaven? We’ll see. HiQ gets a ‘W’ against the big, bad LinkedIn, but this fight isn’t over by a long shot. GoodTime gets some love from Chad, but there’s not total agreement on its future and how bright it is. Is it a feature or a product? Speaking of features, LinkedIn continues to roll out some nice improvements to its service. This time, they’re helping companies build some pipelines. Lastly, the boys analyze Facebook’s latest advertising option that should seriously appeal to brick-and-mortar employers, as well as recruiters who love poaching. As always, say ‘Hi” to our sponsors Sovren, America’s Job Exchange and Wonscore. They make it all happen.

Another big week. The boys cover a grassroots campaign by HiQ to fight-off LinkedIn. Are you in? Indeed has gone shopping, acquiring Interviewed and taking the company into ATS territory. Can Indeed build a platform to take on Google, LinkedIn and Facebook? They sure are giving it their best shot. HR is progressively becoming a mainstay in every company’s PR efforts. As PR gets more and more competitive, marketing teams are turning to the warm-and-fuzzies of HR to cut through the clutter. We discuss. Then, we look at a 500 Startups company, VCV, who automates the sourcing and much of the recruiting at employers. Is this the future of hiring? Definitely maybe. TheLadders is knee-deep in TMZ territory with their current content marketing strategy, publishing 5-12 stories daily to generate traffic. There are opposing viewpoints on this tactic and it gets a tad heated. Lastly, we look at a company called Werk that hopes to bring flexibility to the workplace. However, that’s not what the boys find interesting. You’ll have to listen to find out what got them chatting it up. As always, visit our sponsor America’s Job Exchange, Sovren and Wonscore by Wonderlic. They make it all happen, people.

The summer of love rolls on, boys and girls. This week, LinkedIn is out for blood, Dice hits rock bottom and there ain’t no party like a microchipping your employee party. But first, the state of Wisconsin is losing its mind or maybe overindulging on cheese curds as one company throws a party to celebrate the microchipping of its employees. There’s even a T-shirt. Then, rural communities are being disenfranchised by the automation of everything. This country, however, is starting to outlaw automation. Take that, free market capitalism. Then, Indeed, not to be outdone on the ATS front by Google Hire, has acquired a business to make it more competitive. On to LinkedIn, where after a quick rant, the boys talk about a current court case with HiQ and LinkedIn, which could have serious repercussions on the HR tech industry and companies who count on LinkedIn data to do business, as well as discussing further integration into all things Microsoft. And what show would be complete without discussing Google? This week, the boys discuss some of Google Hire’s shortcomings, and there are quite a few. Then, the boys close the podcast by discussing the disaster that is the current state of Dice, a public company that’s tanking, even though tech hiring is at an all-time high. As always, support our sponsors America’s Job Exchange, Sovren, and Wonscore by Wonderlic. They make this ridiculous podcast possible. Hallelujah!

Giddyup kids! Episode 19 is in the books. Chad and Cheese are hot on Google Hire’s exploding interest and latest product demo. Chad breaks it down like a math problem. CareerBuilder’s 15 year marriage to Gannett ended in divorce this week. You’ll never guess who was waiting in the wings as Gannett swiped right! JazzHR got $6 million in funding. Talk about great timing, as we’re not sure they’d get the same interest with Google Hire live today. The boys also discuss the variety of ATS execs and what stye think of Google Hire. Also, AI is still in the news and some company in Wisconsin is putting microchips in employees. WTF? As always, visit our sponsors America’s Job Exchange, Sovren and Wonscore. They make it all possible.

The boys are back after the 4th holiday and Chad trekking to Oregon for college visitations. And it’s a good thing, because the news was hot-and-heavy this week. Google Hire officially launched. Are the guys impressed or not? Indeed and LinkedIn were also making waves this week. In Indeed’s case, the product offerings continue to come down the pike. One of the guys is not impressed. LinkedIn, on the other hand, is busy leveraging its relationship with Microsoft to get deeper into Windows 10 and video. And they also really, really hates when people do (tune in to find out). Additionally, some start-up just got a check for $30 million to take on this segment of the industry. In other news, some head of HR said a certain social media app was the “new LinkedIn.” Really? Really?!?! As usual, visit partners America’s Job Exchange, Sovren and Wonscore by Wonderlic. Without them, there ain’t no show, people. Enjoy and stay cool. It’s friggin’ hot out there.

While Chad is on vacation in Oregon and consuming enough craft brews to hydrate a frat party, Joel Cheesman is left to hold down the fort. Listeners won't be disappointed. This week, we deliver an interview with the CEO of Wonderlic, Charlie Wonderlic. Football fans will recognize the Wonderlic name for the assessment tests they provide for the NFL during the combine. Employers will know the Wonderlic name for the assessment tests they offer, making sure employees are perfect fits for their organization. Charlie Wonderlic gives us his opinion on recruiting Millennials and how they're different from previous generations like Gen X and Baby Boomers. And then we explore how do assessments play into employment brand. Charlie also goes in depth on his opinion on how automation affects employee testing and the jobs of the future, as well as how the current state of employment in America and the gig economy creates new challenges for employers. It's a podcast you don't want to miss. And as usual, visit our sponsors and throw mad paper in their direction, since they're the only reason we get to do what we do ... America's Job Exchange, Wonscore by Wonderlic and Sovren.